Supreme Knowledge

I keep hearing an argument for the existence of god that I absolutely must address. Supposedly, us humans are of such inferior intelect that to be able to perceive of god or know god exists is just a stretch of our plausible mental faculties. The reason we can’t see god is our brains are just too weak to work it all out, which supposedly makes sense since god is just so awesome and stuff.

I just want to point out here and now that this is the dumbest fucking thing I’ve ever heard. An organism’s ability to think on the same level as another organism has no bearing on the existence of another organism. The way organisms know other organisms exist is not mental, it is physical. Ants know humans exist. We might just be a gigantic large object that will squish them, but they know we are there because just before getting squished, they scurry away to avoid being squished. They don’t have to understand math, philosphy, quantum mechanics, cosmology, rocket science, how to build smart phones, or create fine art to know we exist.

I don’t care if you believe your god makes a modern supercomputer look like an idiot. I don’t care if there is no way I will ever be able to understand his superior intellectual plan that includes child rape and leukemia. Show me his effect on the real world. Show me the proverbial “squished ant”, whatever that may be.

If your god is real, and can actually do anything at all in our real universe, then there will be a physical change because of your god. What is that change? Please tell me.

Also, ants can get squished by stuff other than people. They can actually get squished by stuff that isn’t even alive, like if a rock wears free from a hillside and rolls down. So after you tell me what you claim your god does, how do I know that it is because of your god, and not just something else? How can you tell the difference? Explain that.

I don’t need to see examples of godly-level math. I don’t need to listen to the insanely complex decision making process of your god. I just want you to show me that your god is capable of affecting anything in the real world. Literally anything at all.

I’ll be waiting right here for any religious person anywhere in the world to just show me what their god does. I won’t be holding by breath, on account of this sort of thing historically being such a disappointment. But spread my words far and wide, I’m here waiting to see this god of yours.

By the way, if all your god is able to supposedly do is create events that are just as likely by chance, then your god is a supreme weak-ass bitch, and even if real wouldn’t be worth worshipping anyway.

The Spartan Atheist

22 thoughts on “Supreme Knowledge

  1. Christians believe that God created the human being with the capacity to know, love and serve Him. Obviously, the argument you keep hearing comes from atheists not Christians. Consequently, you are arguing with yourself and losing, as usual.

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    1. Well hello, Silence. You have one shot: Did Ananias die for the reason you said or the reason the bible said?

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      1. You mean, “Did Ananias die for the reason you say or the reason the Bible says. I’ll stick with the Bible which says that Ananias died because he was a greedy and tried to bamboozle himself into the Christian community.

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      2. Wow! It is a new day! Silence actually answered a question. Will wonders never cease? So Ananias sold all of his property and gave nearly all of his money to the church. So maybe 90%? What do you think, Silence? So he gives 90% of his entire worth but held back a little, maybe 10%? And you think that is worth killing someone for.

        Silence, I want you to give up all of your worldly possesions, sell your house, car, furniture, pots and pans, clothes, electronics, everything, and give every penny to YOUR church. And let me remind you, YOU believe the penalty for not doing so is justifyably death…. Right?

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      3. I answered that question weeks ago. You probably deleted it in one of your fits of rage and have accused me ever since of not answering the question.

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      4. No, Silence, you never did. But now that you have, I want you to give up all of your money- every last penny of your weath- to your church. And if you even keep a couple hundred bucks back, you yourself said you should be killed. Right?

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      5. Everything belongs to God. The Church tends to its own business. I tend to my own business. Both the Church and the disciple are obliged to be good stewards of what God has given them to tend. This comes from the Genesis story of Adam and Eve.

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      6. No, silence, you deserve to die if you dont give every last penny of your wealth to the church. You agreed the bible was right, and it said nothing of stewardship. Everything or you are a criminal that deserves to die.

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      7. Spartan, Thank you for your concern. But as long as I don’t try to buy my into heaven, I think I’ll be okay.

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      8. No, Silence! You said the bible was right. Ananias’ problem was not trying to buy his way into heaven, it was the exact opposite! He was fucking killed for NOT GIVING EVERYTHING. You are fucked.

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      9. Spartan, Why ask questions if you are always going to supply the wrong answer? You are like a sober man who failed his urine test. How is that even possible?!

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      10. Silence, YOU TOLD ME that the reason Ananias was killed was for giving ALMOST all of his money to the church as it says in the bible You also said not giving ALL of your money to the church deserves the death penalty. That’s what you answered. Would you care to change your answer or something?

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      11. Spartan, It doesn’t make any difference what I think. It is what God thinks that counts. Ananias was trying to buy his way into the miracle power being displayed by the Apostles. He could have given 200% of his wealth and it still would not have been enough because Ananias was seeking worldly power not the humility, holiness and righteousness being offered by Jesus through his Apostles.

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      12. Are you retarded? He gave ALMOST EVERYTHING to the church. Your turn.

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  2. IMO, there’s simply no getting around the fact that “God” is nothing more than a amplified version of human beings. Everything attributed to “him” is identifiable in humans … just on a bit larger scale. And the fact that “the religious” fail to see this is the puzzle of the centuries.

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  3. ACTS 5:1-11 NIV
    5 Now a man named Ananias, together with his wife Sapphira, also sold a piece of property. 2 With his wife’s full knowledge he kept back part of the money for himself, but brought the rest and put it at the apostles’ feet.
    3 Then Peter said, “Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land? 4 Didn’t it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold, wasn’t the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a thing? You have not lied just to human beings but to God.”
    5 When Ananias heard this, he fell down and died.

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    1. Nan, I get the feeling that SOM just realized why he fought so hard not to answer my question before. A month later, issue forgotten, he comes up with a quick and clear “bible version is right” like they are programmed to do, but then is now facing the consequences of doing so. God killed someone immediately for only giving most of their money to the church. That is pretty indefensible, and I think he is stuck in a corner now that he actually answered. You?

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      1. Unfortunately, scripture does not provide a clear and direct indication that God is the one who killed Ananias. But in any event, he DID die because he held back money from “the church.” There simply is no debate over that part.

        I’m not sure what SOM is talking about when he says Ananias was trying to “buy his way into the miracle power” … ???

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      2. Oh, it’s called “rationalization”. SOM does that all the time.

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  4. chris schilling May 19, 2022 — 6:10 pm

    “Miracle Power.”

    Sounds like a brand of soap powder.

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  5. “If your god is real, and can actually do anything at all in our real universe, then there will be a physical change because of your god.”

    And that includes talking to people. Human brains are physical objects, and any communication with a human is causing a change in a physical object. If we assumed there was a god, and we have two people who claim that god talks to them, but one of them is mistaken about that, how could we ever find out which one of them it is?

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    1. It’s the same bait-and-switch I’m encountering right now on an apologist’s blog. They claim god interacts with us, but when asked how they just shout that we have a “cartoonish” view of their god. Okay, then explain it I request. They don’t. They bitch more. They evade the question.

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